James Jones Bates & Elizabeth (Waters)
James 'Jones' BATES
Headcorn - James Jones Bates Early days
James Bates was born in Headcorn 18 April 1864 in the family home of his Grandfather Peter BATES, later living with his Grandmother Jane. He apprenticed as a bricklayer. In 1874 his mother Ann Mary Bates married Charles Everest.
The name James Jones Bates
1. The name James JONES Bates appears on
his birth certificate
2. The name in subsequent Census is James Bates and the name in
1871 census becomes James JOHN Bates
The clue to James Bates may be in his birth Certificate. A search for JONES in the Hollingbourn district and indeed wider has so far failed.
The fate of my GGrandmother Mary Ann Bates is explained by her marriage in 1874 to Charles EVEREST witnessed by her father Peter Bates in Headcorn. In the 1891 Census she is found living as a widow and family in Ashford and later alone in 1901 in West Ashford
Headcorn - Marriage & Family
James Jones BATES was born in Headcorn on 16 April 1864, married Elizabeth 'Betsy' WATERS (Q1 1885) and had a large family of 16 with 13 children surviving infancy.
| Sibbling | Year | Born | Spouse | |
| George BATES | 1885 | Elmsted | Amelia PAGE | |
| Lizzie BATES | 1893 | Elmsted | Jim LANGLEY | |
| Fred BATES | 1886 | Elmsted | ALICE | |
| 1889 | Elmsted | Harry DRAKE | ||
| 'Jim' James BATES | 1891 | Elmsted | Nellie |
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| Mary 'May' BATES | 1892 | Elmsted | 'Farie' SIMMONDS | |
| 'Ted' Edward BATES | 1895 | Elmsted | Annie' |
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| Hetty' Harriet BATES | 1896 | Margate | Albert 'Bert' KING | |
| Harry BATES | 1897 | Margate | Alice THOMPSON | |
| Lottie BATES | 1899 | Dover | ||
| Millie BATES | 1904 | Dover | Albert MARSH | |
| Jack BATES | 1906 | Dover | Hilda Irene FISHER | |
| Horace BATES | 1908 | Dover | GLADYS OXLADE | |
The following records cover the period of his life through to his residence in Dover with Elizabeth.
Marriage Peter BATES and Jane
James Jones Birth Certificate
1851 Census Headcorn
1881 Census Headcorn - James living with Grandmother Jane
1881 Census Ashford - Mary Ann with Charles EVOREST
Marriage of Mary Ann BATES and living in Ashford as a
widow and
alone.
Marriage of James and Elizabeth BATES
1911
Census Dover
Elizabeth "Betsy" BATES née WATERS
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Birth, Marriages and Deaths pages in the BATES family Bible
Ancestral Tree of Elizabeth WATERS
Marriage George WATERS and Mary NORRIS
The ancestral tree of Elizabeth WATERS is compiled with information from the BATES Bible and entries in www.Hastingleigh.com - Elmsted Parish records, confirmed by the marriage certificate (1847) for George WATERS and Mary. (This Bible was generously gifted to my son Jeremy John BATES by Barbara BATES in 2010.)
George WATERS was the proprietor of the TIMBER BATTS in Elmsted from 1859
History of The Timber Batts. This extract is from http://www.thetimberbatts.co.uk/
"In 1833, with greatly improved roads, a licence was granted to
sell to the pub1ic in general. The house was given the title of
the Prince of Wales. The first keeper of the inn was one Frances
Waters a farmer and grazier of the parish. It remained in their
families hands until 1894, though still controlled by the estate
of Honywood. The land belonging to the inn was farmed
till 1859 when it was taken over by George Waters, carpenter and
beer seller of the parish. The inn remained part of the
Honywood estate until 1960 when it was sold to a private buyer,
one Edward Anning who carried out